The Hear It Podcast
How do we engage a youth audience? Back for Season 3, the Hear It Podcast is speaking with guests from a breadth of sectors on how they work with and engage young people and what we can learn from them to inform our marketing and communications approach. The Hear It Podcast brings you insights, ideas, stories and advice on how to talk to a Millennial, Gen Z and Alpha audience. Hosted by Rebecca Roberts, Founder of marketing and communications consultancy Thread & Fable. This podcast is for you if you have a youth audience and you want inspiration and ideas on how to better listen and talk to them.
Episodes

Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
Dr. Josephine Perry on Teens, Psychology & Sport
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
This episode we’re joined by Dr Josephine Perry, Chartered Psychologist, Founder of Performance in Mind, journalist and author. Having worked across a breadth of communications roles, from lobbying to being Communications Director at Nuffield Health, her own sporting experience took her into performance psychology, where she has worked with a breadth of athletes and written several books, including her latest book about teenage athletes.
https://performanceinmind.co.uk/about/
@Josephineperry
Her Books: Performing Under Pressure, The Psychology of Exercise, I Can: The Teenage Athlete’s Guide to Mental Fitness
On the episode we mention:
The Self Determination Theory
https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/
Tsundoku - the Japanese term for buying too many books! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundoku#:~:text=Tsundoku%20(Japanese%3A%20%E7%A9%8D%E3%82%93%E8%AA%AD),%E2%80%931912)%20as%20Japanese%20slang.
Dr Perry’s recommendations:
Barbie campaigns https://barbie.mattel.com/en-us/about/you-can-be-anything.html
We talk about teenagers and why music is so important to them https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-teens-need-their-musi_b_9113178
Her Spirit Podcast with BBC Presenter Louise Minchim and Triathlon Coach Annie Emmerson https://herspirit.buzzsprout.com/
Lockdown Parenting Hell Podcast with Josh Widdacombe and Rob Beckett https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/rob-beckett-and-josh-widdicombes-lockdown-parenting-hell/id1510251497
Doing it for the Kids Podcast with Frankie Tortora and Steve Folland http://www.doingitforthekids.net/diftk-podcast/
Caroline Criado Perez, author of Invisible Women’s newsletter https://carolinecriadoperez.com/
Alexander Preece, All Things Sport newsletter https://allthingssport.libsyn.com/
Sharn Meades-Williams newsletter https://www.sianmeadeswilliams.com/freelance-writing-jobs

Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
Tanya Martin from Women in Sport on Teens vs Sport
Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
This week we’re talking about the latest research into teen girls and sport with Tanya Martin, Insight Manager at Women in Sport, a national charity that works to give every woman and girl the opportunity to experience the transformational rewards of sport.
Tanya Martin
@Womeninsport_uk
Women in Sport: The Impact of COVID-19 on Girls Lives and Physical Activity, 2021 https://www.womeninsport.org/research-and-advice/our-publications/the-impact-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-on-teenage-girls-lives-and-physical-activity/
Women in Sport Reframing Sport for Teenage Girls 2019 https://www.womeninsport.org/research-and-advice/our-publications/reframing-sport-for-teenage-girls-building-strong-foundations-for-their-futures/
Tanya’s Recommendations
Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/en
Vans Off The Wall https://www.vans.co.uk/off-the-wall.html
Women In Sport Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-women-in-sport-podcast/id1477178369
Girls Talk https://gurlstalk.libsyn.com/
The Psychology of Exercise by Josephine Perry

Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
Nafisa Shafiq from the University of Leeds on Allyship in Student Communications
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
Tuesday Jun 08, 2021
This week we’re joined by Nafisa Shafiq, Student Communications Manager at the University of Leeds. Nafisa’s experience across a breadth of sectors had always been driven by the desire for more inclusive communications, not just within her role in higher education, but in the wider sector and indeed her own career and this episode we talk about how student communications have faired over the past year and how she approaches tone of voice, communicating key messages and how to instill allyship as part of student communications.
You can find Nafisa on Twitter here @NafisaShafiq and her blog https://nafisashafiq.com/
Nafisa’s blog on allyship on Comms2Point0 https://comms2point0.co.uk/comms2point0/2021/3/15/everyone-has-the-ability-to-be-an-ally
Nafisa’s Recommendations
Brands that really lived up to their discussion of Black Lives Matter, particularly to youth audiences that Nafisa references:
Ben & Jerry’s https://www.benjerry.com/about-us/media-center/dismantle-white-supremacy
Manchester United https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/mu-foundation-take-a-stand-with-support-for-kick-it-out-initiative#
Nike’s Just Don’t Do It anti-racism campaign https://news.nike.com/news/nike-for-once-don-t-do-it-film

Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
Emma Leech from Nottingham Trent University on What’s Next for Higher Education
Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
Tuesday Jun 01, 2021
This week we’re joined by Emma Leech, Director of Marketing and Communications at Nottingham Trent University. Emma’s career spans a breadth of Higher Education Institutions, with her teams winning a multitude of awards for their work in engaging young people. A founding chartered PR Practitioner, Chartered Marketer and Chartered Manager, she has also held industry positions including CIPR President in 2019. We talk about how campaigns in higher education have to work harder to engage young people, why demonstrating the value of education is vital and what the challenges of the past year mean for marketing and communications over the coming months.
Emma on Twitter @EmmaJ70
https://www.ntu.ac.uk/staff-profiles/senior-management-team/emma-leech
Emma’s Recommendations
Brené Brown Dare to Lead book, her podcast of the same name is here https://brenebrown.com/dtl-podcast/
David Olusoga, Black and British, a Forgotten History book, and his show for BBC can be found here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b082x0h6
Calm Edged Rebels Podcast
https://calmedgedrebels.com/
Disrupting the Degree podcast with Stephen Cleary https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/disrupting-the-degree/id1529940932
Insight Timer app https://insighttimer.com/
https://www.allthingsic.com/
https://wonkhe.com/

Tuesday May 25, 2021
Jim Dickinson from WONKHE on What’s Next for Higher Education
Tuesday May 25, 2021
Tuesday May 25, 2021
This week we’re joined by Jim Dickinson, Associate Editor of WONKHE, where he explores the latest research, analysis and policy making impacting students and higher education. A former long-standing director at the National Union of Students, Jim has also worked as CEO at the Students’ Union at UEA in Norwich and is also a fellow at the Royal Society of the Arts. In this episode we discuss some of the issues the pandemic has brought upon students and what the future may hold for the sector.
Jim Dickinson @jim_dickinson
Wonkhe https://wonkhe.com/
https://wonkhe.com/blogs/the-pandemic-has-decimated-the-university-experience-how-can-we-put-that-right/
Airport culture and Gen Z from Vice https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3gy5k/gen-z-airport-culture
Jim's Recommendations
What Adults Don't Tell You Before You Adult podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-adults-dont-tell-you-before-you-adult/id1462211932

Tuesday May 18, 2021
Tuesday May 18, 2021
This week we speak with Dr Thomas Curran, Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychological and Behavioural Science at the London School of Economics. His research into the personality characteristics of perfectionism and cultural influences upon it have highlighted the growing impact of perfectionism on young people’s mental health, as well as what society needs to do to address it.
Dr Curran’s research and articles https://www.lse.ac.uk/PBS/People/Dr-Tom-Curran
TED Talk on our obsession with Perfectionism https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_curran_our_dangerous_obsession_with_perfectionism_is_getting_worse?language=en
Book recommendations
Brené Brown, The Gifts of Imperfection
TED talk on the Power of Vulnerability by Brené Brown https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_the_power_of_vulnerability?language=en
Karen Horney, Neurosis and Human Growth
More about Karen Horney and her work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Horney
Susan Cain, Quiet
TED talk, the Power of Introverts, Susan Cain https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_the_power_of_introverts?language=en
Contact us @hearitpodcast or info@threadandfable.com

Tuesday May 11, 2021
Sue Jones from Ditch the Label on Online Life and Bullying
Tuesday May 11, 2021
Tuesday May 11, 2021
We explore online life, pressure and perfectionism and its impact on bullying and mental health. Speaking to Sue Jones, Deputy CEO of global youth charity Ditch the Label. Its annual bullying report highlighted the 25% rise in bullying, attributing social media as a major cause, with 47% of young people saying they believe they were bullied based on their appearance. We explore what impact the pandemic has had on this and what we should consider as we build campaigns and initiatives engaging young people moving forward.
Sue Jones @DtLSue
Ditch the Label https://www.ditchthelabel.org @DitchtheLabel
Annual Bullying Survey 2020: https://www.ditchthelabel.org/research-papers/the-annual-bullying-survey-2020/
Ditch the Label on Twitter https://twitter.com/DitchtheLabel
Section 28: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28
Boo Hoo Ditch the Label Video Insta Life vs Reality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EFHbruKEmw
United Nations - Digital Rights https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/03/1088182
Online Harms White Paper: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/online-harms-white-paper/online-harms-white-paper
Sue's Recommendations
The Washington Post on Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@washingtonpost?lang=en
Fearless, by Ditch the Label CEO Liam Hackett https://www.ditchthelabel.org/how-to-be-fearless-an-interview-with-ditch-the-label-ceo-liam-hackett/
Contact us @hearitpodcast or info@threadandfable.com

Friday Feb 19, 2021
How to reflect youth voice with Dave Musson
Friday Feb 19, 2021
Friday Feb 19, 2021
Dave Musson from The Access Platform shares his view on why peer to peer student content is the best way to reflect youth voice.
Hear about how his career has brought him to TAP, what makes for the best youth content and how to manage it without being overly prescriptive.
An experienced podcaster himself, on everything from Slipknot to his beloved Coventry Bears team, he also shares what he listens to for inspiration.
We mention: Nike, Inspiration on TAP , Reply All, Heavyweight,
Follow Dave on Twitter https://twitter.com/davemusson

Sunday Feb 07, 2021
Behaviour change and health messages with Dr. Emma Ross
Sunday Feb 07, 2021
Sunday Feb 07, 2021
We speak with Dr Emma Ross, co-founder of the Well HQ and former Head of Physiology at the English Institute of Sport.
Emma has not only led research into the data gap that exists within high performance sport to better inform practice and performance of some of Britain’s leading female athletes, she has authored Train Like a Woman (Out March 2021) and launched the Well HQ to break down the barriers for women and girls when it comes to understanding women’s bodies and what this means for physical fitness and overall wellbeing.
We talk about why the gap exists, the impact it has on girls dropping out of sport and the importance of shifting the messaging not just to girls themselves but to the teachers, sports coaches and of course parents around them.
You can follow Emma here https://twitter.com/ezross?s=20
You can find out more about the Well HQ here https://www.thewell-hq.com/
Train Like a Woman is Emma’s new book and is out soon! https://www.thewell-hq.com/work-with-us/books/
Hear Emma Ross talk with Maisie Hill about the power of periods on Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/fTXbtQrxnLXBMjgZbq83Zf/can-you-harness-the-power-of-your-period
Research Emma mentions about lack of knowledge women have about their own bodies https://www.rcog.org.uk/better-for-women
This is the book Emma and I both read and found fascinating – How the Pill Changes Everything by Dr Sarah Hill https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/oct/19/dr-sarah-e-hill-how-pill-influences-womens-brains
Sport England Active Lives Data I mentioned https://www.sportengland.org/news/childrens-activity-levels-down-many-embrace-new-opportunities
Women in Sport girls data I mention https://www.womeninsport.org/research-and-advice/our-publications/reframing-sport-for-teenage-girls-building-strong-foundations-for-their-futures/
Drop in girls self-esteem/worth research I mentioned https://epi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/EPI-PT_Young-people%E2%80%99s-wellbeing_Jan2021.pdf
Girls Active Campaign from Youth Sport Trust https://www.youthsporttrust.org/girls-active
Books by Maisie Hill which Emma recommends https://www.maisiehill.com/
The Female Pod which Emma recommends https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/female-athlete-podcast/id1501684789

Monday Feb 01, 2021
Behaviour change and health messaging with Shayoni Lynn
Monday Feb 01, 2021
Monday Feb 01, 2021
In order to influence behaviour, from the development of your campaign through to how your measure it's impact, has to delve deeper than 'likes' or 'reach' in order to be effective, not least when it comes to habits and behaviours that influence health.
This episode we speak with Shayoni Lynn, founder of Lynn PR and industry expert in data-driven strategic communications and applied behavioural science.
Having worked on numerous award-winning campaigns, including some that engage youth audiences, we hear her take on why campaigns so often miss the mark and why context is everything when it comes to engaging young people.
https://www.lynnpr.co.uk/
https://twitter.com/shayonislynn

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